tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post113425358496706815..comments2024-03-18T12:52:48.117-07:00Comments on Mini-Microsoft: Confidential Mercurial CommentsWho da'Punkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18205453956191063442noreply@blogger.comBlogger140125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1157521064831909832006-09-05T22:37:00.000-07:002006-09-05T22:37:00.000-07:00I'll take code written at 3am by MarkL or any numb...I'll take code written at 3am by MarkL or any number of the folks who used to be on the base team as opposed to the "stuff" that was written by those in some of the other groups (browser/shell) at any time of the day. Having had to build and test all of it at some time or another, it's not the when, it's the who. Those who are committed to excellence put it what time is necessary to get the job done, willingly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1149668574494250482006-06-07T01:22:00.000-07:002006-06-07T01:22:00.000-07:00@markl"I left at 4am, and they were there when I r...@markl<BR/><BR/>"I left at 4am, and they were there when I returned at 830am the next day."<BR/>So, they don't so much go home to catch some sleep as they wait for the timer to reset so they can respawn, right?<BR/><BR/>I appreciate your level of dedication but I would definitely need an obscene amount of stock options waiting to vest to make me want to be at the office at 4am. I wouldn't want to frigthen some woman one day who wondered what that old freak wanted from her and have her mother have to explain "honey, that's your dad."<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper for Google to just have a really fancy dorm room with a desk and the double-whammy 24" monitors next to them so that you wouldn't be more than one step away from bed? You're practically living there as it is anyway, why pay rent or buy a house that you don't go to anyway?<BR/>You could have a button that lights a green bulb so that the masseuse could come along to rub your shoulders and neck while you wait for the code to compile.<BR/><BR/>And don't smirk, I know at least someone who brought a week's worth of clothes to work and slept on the couch in her office. [Ellen, I'm talking about you, honey].Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1147830395701646172006-05-16T18:46:00.000-07:002006-05-16T18:46:00.000-07:00I love the "your friends at google can spend 20% o...I love the "your friends at google can spend 20% of their time working on..." comment. If you're working 50 hours a week, whose 20% time is it, really?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1143623993057257972006-03-29T01:19:00.000-08:002006-03-29T01:19:00.000-08:00Megamillionaires? Come on? Get Real...Bill & Meli...Megamillionaires? Come on? Get Real...<BR/>Bill & Melinda ahve eradicated Polio in Africa and now have Malaria in their sites (far worse than AIDS). Sure Linusz is interesting, but I'll stand and clap Bill next time he comes on stage for his charity alone!<BR/>Incidentally I'd like to see Linuz solve problems like this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1142989961316362102006-03-21T17:12:00.000-08:002006-03-21T17:12:00.000-08:00Anyone who works to make megabillionaires worth a...Anyone who works to make megabillionaires worth a lot more by giving up their lives in trade get what they deserve. I am 45, have a masters degree, a family, not all the material posessions in the world but free time to do what I like to do.<BR/><BR/>You can debate corporate culture all you want, but at the end of the 18 hour day, you have to look in the mirror and see who is looking back at you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1140578920680030262006-02-21T19:28:00.000-08:002006-02-21T19:28:00.000-08:00I wish I had read Shapiro's book last year. It wo...I wish I had read Shapiro's book last year. It would have prevented me from sharing personal information with HR that has probably destroyed my career development at MS. It's a good book, but there are parts of it that are depressing. There are large portions of it that suggested that the best thing you can do is kiss ass. Harsh. Shapiro is the Machiavelli of corporate America.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1139518606948844482006-02-09T12:56:00.000-08:002006-02-09T12:56:00.000-08:00Yep. A lot of google employees are working late. W...Yep. A lot of google employees are working late. Why? Because those people have lots of stock options.<BR/>Remember one of VP of engineering quit saying he liked to pursue interests in astronomy. Yeah, right! There will be lots of early retirees from google. Wanna bet?<BR/>Microsoft suffers growing too big syndrome like anybody else. Companies come and go. That is a cycle of life. There will be another google or microsoft. Those people working in Google do not need to be arrogant or showing off. They are not the only smart people on the planet. Be nice and pocket your money! For those who are not working for google, wait for your turn (if you are lucky).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1137057696900582652006-01-12T01:21:00.000-08:002006-01-12T01:21:00.000-08:00i worked at MSFT for about 1 month as an SDET.i re...i worked at MSFT for about 1 month as an SDET.<BR/>i really didn't like testing and left, however a few things struck me...<BR/><BR/>1. the average IQ there seemed to be pretty high<BR/>2. overhead and process seemed to be lowering productivity in some areas, but lowering the overall bug count, but at a very high cost<BR/>3. a lot of the work there was just gruelling<BR/><BR/>overall, compared to other places i've worked, it was an amazing company. don't know about google, because i've never worked there.<BR/><BR/>however, MS is a ruthless, rich, smart company. one could argue that this has a lot to do with their success.<BR/>it remains to be seen if google has the right stuff to justify its sky high market valuation.<BR/><BR/>from the outside, it does appear that seems are showing up in the google offerings that make me wonder how well they are organized internally.<BR/><BR/>i'm sure it's a great place to work, but when i see 'google pack' offered with a sense of arogance, i begin to wonder if they aren't heading down the netscape path a bit.<BR/><BR/>as far as the corporate culture at MS, its clear that good ideas are highly valued. so much, that even managers would steal from their employees. but, remember that its still a bunch of human beings.<BR/>this happens EVERYWHERE.<BR/>the difference is that MS is actually rewarding good ideas - it may just be hard to get credit for them.<BR/><BR/>the truth is that very few companies that write code to pay their bills have survived. and if they have survived, quite often they had to switch to a service play.<BR/>so, the fact that MS can still ship products and make a fortune is kind of an exception in the software industry these days.<BR/><BR/>anywhere you work will have issues, but i wouldn't complain too much about microsoft until you have worked somewhere else where you boss is a psychopath idiot who is scared to death of anyone who actually knows what they are talking about.<BR/><BR/>if a ms manager 'hired down' to protect his position, his(her) ability to 'ship' decreases. he wouldn't last long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1136416298872865762006-01-04T15:11:00.000-08:002006-01-04T15:11:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.thusharahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09820727533887579134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1136269163089396102006-01-02T22:19:00.000-08:002006-01-02T22:19:00.000-08:00>> Well, I know of a few people from >> NDT she he...>> Well, I know of a few people from >> NDT she helped contribute to their >> constructive dismissal. I also know >> that Jawad was not aware of >> >> the "right" details on a few of >> those people. <BR/><BR/>>> Why were rebuttals from 4-5 of >> >> those folks not properly allowed to be >> entered to permanent records?<BR/><BR/>>> On washingtonlawhelp.org, there is >> a document that gives an overview >> of your rights as an employee in >> >> the state of Washington.<BR/><BR/>>> The document is entitled Your >> >> >> Rights and Responsibilities as an >> >> Employee in Washington State.<BR/><BR/>>> >> You have the right to look at >> >> your personnel records any time >> >> during your employment and for two >> years after your employment ends. >> You also have the right to insert >> rebuttals into your personnel file >> during that period.<BR/><BR/>>> If you want rebuttals in your >> >> >> personnel records, legally, >> >> >> Microsoft cannot stop you. If they >> >> do so, you can file a complaint.<BR/><BR/>>> You can hire an attorney to help you."<BR/><BR/>=======<BR/><BR/>Thanks for this information, I am like the other posters from NDT who had this treatment. I will followup on this <BR/><BR/>thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1135808526801114422005-12-28T14:22:00.000-08:002005-12-28T14:22:00.000-08:00MS is a much bigger and more diverse company than ...MS is a much bigger and more diverse company than Google. It's much easier to generalize about working at GOOG than MSFT... some MS people hate it, some of us love it. It's a fallacy to say the choice is between working less on things you hate and working more on things you love. I really enjoy my work at MS, and work 8-10 hour days. I chose between MS and Google, and from what I saw I'd enjoy the work at Google too, but not the environment (I like having an office to myself) or hours. <BR/><BR/>I may disagree with my project's overall direction, but I have a lot of choice on what I personally work on, and I like it, so that doesn't bother me too much. I have a lot of non-coding interests, so after 40-50 hours of that a week I'm happy to have the time to do other things.<BR/><BR/>But others on the exact same project do hate being there. Of course, this has been true every job I've worked. I even know at least one Google employee who hates their job, but loves the stock and so is staying put (can't blame them). Maybe I have more opportunities than some posters, but I still don't understand why people stay so long at jobs they hate (with obvious exceptions like getting rich).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1135080024455052732005-12-20T04:00:00.000-08:002005-12-20T04:00:00.000-08:00I gather you haven't actually looked at how those ...<I>I gather you haven't actually looked at how those advertising sectors are doing or you'd have picked a different list.</I><BR/><BR/>I expect media like traditional television networks will adapt rather than disappear.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/cda/doc/content/dtt_tmt_TelevisionnetworksGLOBAL_042005.pdf" REL="nofollow">Television Networks in the 21st Century</A><BR/><BR/><I>Anyhow, internet penetration into US households is said to be approaching its peak and the economy is projected to soften over the next year (less consumer spending -> less revenue -> less advertising dollars).</I><BR/><BR/><I>Online advertising is expected to grow at a brisk pace, for the next year at least. I rather expect that it means advertising on more sites rather than allocating bigger potrtion of the pie to Google, though.</I><BR/><BR/>You would have to look at the growth of Internet usage, the growth of online payments methods, and the economic outlook in countries around the world (not just the United States) to get an idea of how much growth potential Google has.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.economist.com/agenda/displayStory.cfm?story_id=3908700" REL="nofollow">The online ad attack</A><BR/><BR/><I>Worldwide ad revenue on the internet grew by 21% in 2004, and it is expected to continue at that pace for the next few years, says ZenithOptimedia, a research firm (see chart). As Google and Yahoo! are two of the most widely visited sites, this greatly benefits them.</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm" REL="nofollow">INTERNET USAGE STATISTICS - The Big Picture</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.cyberzest.com/ecommerce/ECommerce%20Growth%20in%20India.htm" REL="nofollow">Ecommerce is set for rapid growth in India</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.paymentsnews.com/2005/04/china_ecommerce.html" REL="nofollow">China Ecommerce Growth</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.china.org.cn/english/BAT/124086.htm" REL="nofollow">Online Ad Sector Sees Steady Growth</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1135073987680880002005-12-20T02:19:00.000-08:002005-12-20T02:19:00.000-08:00I find it quite interesting that if someone here s...<I>I find it quite interesting that if someone here supports something or has their own view it becomes an advertising ploy. That person may or may not have their own agenda, but I am going to believe that they really like the book, and that it offered them something valuable. The reason I am going to believe them, is because of everyone else that seems to like it as well. If you haven't read the book, then you are wrongly assuming this is some manipulation.</I><BR/><BR/>Several people have said they like the book. None have done it with the hyperbole (e.g. <I>"Excellent read. EXCELLENT recommendation."</I>) and even fewer have suggested when to buy it (e.g. <I>"I suggest everyone grab a copy and read it now as soon as you can. Having it read before New Years Day, will allow me to have more control and knowledge starting this next year."</I>). Then, there's the tug at emotions (e.g. <I>"That means there is one resolution which will help me and my family."</I>).<BR/><BR/>Maybe the dude works in sales and just can't help the way he speaks. Maybe it is something else.<BR/><BR/>That is why they call it <A HREF="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/43456" REL="nofollow">stealth marketing</A>.<BR/><BR/><I>I guess now, in order to be a reasonable person, you are forcing me to go out, buy the book, read it, and then come back and let everyone know how much I enjoy it or not.</I><BR/><BR/>Do it now! Everything must go!! It contains vital information that could save your LIFE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1135025699834321432005-12-19T12:54:00.000-08:002005-12-19T12:54:00.000-08:00>point. It was essentially a HUGE win and Big F-U ...<I>>point. It was essentially a HUGE win and Big F-U to BillG and SteveB and Microsoft as a whole. Sure it was a costly F-U.<BR/>...<BR/>But it is just a sign that people "think" there is nothing these guys cannot do and shows it can match up against anyone, even mighty Redmond. <BR/>...<BR/>Do you think every company/person Microsoft beat the crap out of in the last many years are laughing their ass off and cheering Google? <BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Gawd, listen to yourself for a second. It's like an inspirational speech from a B-movie.<BR/><BR/>Here's a clue, kid: It's all about <B>money</B>. Businesses do not do grudges, they do not do payback. (At least, not if they want to stay in business). You'd better believe that Schmidt has a real good financial explanation for the AOL deal, and it doesn't contain "F-U" or "10 billion volts of confidence". You'd also better believe that Ballmer has an equally good financial explanation for why the offer made to AOL wasn't sweeter than Google's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1135022048691488332005-12-19T11:54:00.000-08:002005-12-19T11:54:00.000-08:00>Television stations, magazines, and newspapers ma...<I>>Television stations, magazines, and newspapers make a lot of money from advertising revenue. When is that "bubble" going to pop?</I><BR/><BR/>I gather you haven't actually looked at how those advertising sectors are doing or you'd have picked a different list.<BR/><BR/>Anyhow, internet penetration into US households is said to be approaching its peak and the economy is projected to soften over the next year (less consumer spending -> less revenue -> less advertising dollars). <BR/><BR/>Online advertising is expected to grow at a brisk pace, for the next year at least. I rather expect that it means advertising on more sites rather than allocating bigger potrtion of the pie to Google, though.<BR/><BR/>So tell me, Google fans, where is the blistering growth that will justify its valuation and P/E ratio?<BR/><BR/><pop>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1135013086342731992005-12-19T09:24:00.000-08:002005-12-19T09:24:00.000-08:00Stable OS and the quality of code written at 2 AM:...Stable OS and the quality of code written at 2 AM:<BR/><BR/>Let us not kid ourselves that the OS is stable because people have been writing code at regular hours in the past few years. <BR/><BR/>It is more stable due to better tools, processes, compilers and a host of other reasons. Not due to having better programmers or well rested programmers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1135011007387855932005-12-19T08:50:00.000-08:002005-12-19T08:50:00.000-08:00I find it quite interesting that if someone here s...I find it quite interesting that if someone here supports something or has their own view it becomes an advertising ploy. That person may or may not have their own agenda, but I am going to believe that they really like the book, and that it offered them something valuable. The reason I am going to believe them, is because of everyone else that seems to like it as well. If you haven't read the book, then you are wrongly assuming this is some manipulation. I would suggest you go read the book, then come back and tell everyone yourself if you liked or disliked the book.<BR/><BR/>To blindly make statements with no logical information supporting your position, seems more like some of the illinformed managers I have seen. Making decisions regarding schedule time, and features for projects they know nothing about because they could never be bothered to show up to any project meetings, or take the time to read any of the design documents. <BR/><BR/>I guess now, in order to be a reasonable person, you are forcing me to go out, buy the book, read it, and then come back and let everyone know how much I enjoy it or not.<BR/><BR/>>"Thanks for the advertising >posing as a regular posting. Is >this kind of manipulation covered >in the book? I haven't read it."<BR/><BR/>>>"I suggest everyone grab a copy >>and read it now as soon as you >>can. Having it read before New >>Years Day, will allow me to have >>more control and >>knowledge >>starting this next year. That >>means there is one resolution >>which will help me and my >>family. It will also be useful >>all next year as well."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1135007056924159462005-12-19T07:44:00.000-08:002005-12-19T07:44:00.000-08:00Comment Ten:Hmm by spending a billion dollars on A...Comment Ten:<BR/><BR/>Hmm by spending a billion dollars on AOL, Google just saw their market cap. go up by 2 Billion. Does that make alot of sense nad is that warranted? Maybe or maybe not. But it is just a sign that people "think" there is nothing these guys cannot do and shows it can match up against anyone, even mighty Redmond. <BR/><BR/>Do you think every company/person Microsoft beat the crap out of in the last many years are laughing their ass off and cheering Google? <BR/><BR/>And of course this maybe a blessing in disguise for Redmond, it may force BillG and SteveB to think about thinks and reevaluate their business plan/strategy. It may do what Mini and others are hoping for,"CHANGE".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1135003051548466472005-12-19T06:37:00.000-08:002005-12-19T06:37:00.000-08:00Comment Eight:I been reading comments back and for...Comment Eight:<BR/><BR/>I been reading comments back and forth about the hours worked at Google vs Microsoft. Some MS employees were saying that don't think its good to be working those hours at Google blah blah blah and give excuses as to why they think that way. I think it is all and great they value their time with their family and all because I am like that myself. I would never in my wildest dreams forgo my time with family and friends for work no matter how much I was making or would make (stock options). But that is just me. Having said that, I think what MarkL was trying to say about Google was that working their provides him and his fellow cohorts with a choice. At Microsoft, you could work your regular 9-5 job and get screwed or work 15 hours a day and get screwed. Either way you get screwed. Of course I am exaggerating a bit because I am sure its not that bad at Microsoft. My point was that there is no incentive to work hard and be aggressive because upper management does not care and would probably steal your idea or knock it down. Contrast that to Google. I am sure there are many people at Google like MarkL who work those crazy hours. But I am also sure there are many people there who work semi-regular hours too. I am pretty sure that Google manangement is not chaining people to their pc and forcing them to pump out code at 2am in the morning. The point is that at Google, you have a choice. You are allowed to spend 20% of your time working on your pet project without questions asked as long as it is legal that is. And for all your hard work and long hours, you could potentially land a quick $1 million to your name.<BR/><BR/>yes some people and that would include myself are happy just collecting a paycheck. However, some people actually love working long hours and taking risk and for that you are rewarded with that at Google. That does not exist at Microsoft. <BR/><BR/><B><I>A lot of smart people work at Google, but that's not going to stop the bubble from popping.</I></B><BR/><BR/>I hate to say this but if the advertising/marketing crashes, Google won't be the only ones hurting. We will all be F**Ked. Advertising and Marketing is what makes the world go round and round. It is what makes us moron continue to buy and spend money on junk that we don't need at all. Companies spend money on ads that tricks us into thinking we need their products, we like dummies nod our heads and buy and they make more money, hire more people to make more junk to sell more junk, and spend more ad money. And the cycle renews. If companies spend less on ads, we buy less junk, they make less money, they make less junk, they hire fewer people and the economy starts going in the shitter. Simple economics. <BR/><BR/>And another blloger made an excellent point. <BR/><BR/><B>Television stations, magazines, and newspapers make a lot of money from advertising revenue. When is that "bubble" going to pop?</B><BR/><BR/>What is so different about Google vs. television or any other media outlet. TV broadcasters make a hit show, draw in a large audience and advertisers lots of money to show their junk (products/services) in between the shows. The same thing/principle works with Google but in a different format. The only difference is that advertisers can better target their audience using web search. <BR/><BR/>For ex: I am interested in finding info for allergy treatment, so I go to google and search for "allergy" and ups pops all these results pertaining to info on allergies along with ads from various pharm companies pushing their own allergy blockbuster. Now contrast that with selling ads on tv. A broadcaster has a hit show. Advertisers have to spend money on market research to find out who is watching the show to make ads that fit that demographic. An allergy ad is produced and shown during the show. However, it is still a hit and miss. For all the advertisers knows only a handful of people watching the show and commercial will have a need for allergy pills. Simple example and huge ramifications. If anything, "the advertising bubble" would hurt more with traditional media. <BR/><BR/>And a final thought/question on advertising<BR/><BR/>If there is an advertising bubble and search is so risky, why are all you geniuses at MS plowing forward with it ?<BR/><BR/>Comment Nine:<BR/><BR/>Google just won the deal with AOL and cost them $1 Billion. Now lets put aside the business motives/strategic plan behind the deal. And look at it from a competition stand point. It was essentially a HUGE win and Big F-U to BillG and SteveB and Microsoft as a whole. Sure it was a costly F-U. It cost Page, Brin and Co a cool billion dollar but if you don't think this is sending waves through their company and techdom in general. Page, Brin and Goo-Topia was just shot with 10 billion volts of confidence knowing that they can take on Redmond and win. And what do you think this is saying to the rest of techdom ? Hey, maybe Microsoft is that that formiddable and can be knocked down. <BR/><BR/>Now does that mean Microsoft will collapse and die because of this loss, absolutely NOT. However, this is sending a clear message to everyone that Microsoft is not as great as it thinks it is and no longer the gate keeper of the tech world. Prior to the last couple of years, it seem like everything went through Redmond. Now people see other options.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1134978527315113332005-12-18T23:48:00.000-08:002005-12-18T23:48:00.000-08:00From: THE THEORY AND PRACTICE OF OLIGARCHICAL COLL...<I>From: THE THEORY AND PRACTICE OF OLIGARCHICAL COLLECTIVISM<BR/>by Emmanuel Goldstein<BR/>Chapter I:Ignorance is Strength<BR/>1984, George Orwell</I><BR/><BR/>George obviously never experienced a sanitation worker strike.<BR/><BR/>What we really need is a giant goat.<BR/><BR/>http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/hitchhikers/guide/golgafrincham.shtml<BR/><BR/><I>"The planet Golgafrincham creatively solved the problem of middle managers: it blasted them in to space.<BR/><BR/>Golgafrinchan Telephone Sanitisers, Management Consultants and Marketing executives were persuaded that the planet was under threat from an enormous mutant star goat. The useless third of their population was then packed in Ark spaceships and sent to an insignificant planet.<BR/><BR/>That planet turned out to be Earth..."</I><BR/><BR/>Finding out what that enormous "goat" is is why we're all here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1134954420008982862005-12-18T17:07:00.000-08:002005-12-18T17:07:00.000-08:00Throughout recorded time, and probably since the e...Throughout recorded time, and probably since the end of the Neolithic Age, there have been three kinds of people in the world, the High, the Middle, and the Low. They have been subdivided in many ways, they have borne countless different names, and their relative numbers, as well as their attitude towards one another, have varied from age to age: but the essential structure of society has never altered. Even after enormous upheavals and seemingly irrevocable changes, the same pattern has always reasserted itself, just as a gyroscope will always return to equilibrium, however far it is pushed one way or the other. <BR/><BR/>The aims of these groups are entirely irreconcilable... <BR/><BR/>From: THE THEORY AND PRACTICE OF OLIGARCHICAL COLLECTIVISM <BR/>by Emmanuel Goldstein <BR/>Chapter I:Ignorance is Strength<BR/>1984, George OrwellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1134944498081979372005-12-18T14:21:00.000-08:002005-12-18T14:21:00.000-08:00I had an idea a while ago that I presented to our ...I had an idea a while ago that I presented to our lead PM. During our meeting he said that he didn't see the benefit to the user and "to be perfectly honest" he didn't think it would get scheduled or implemented. <BR/><BR/>Late that night, he sent out an email to our team's management proposing the idea, complete with mock screenshots, a cool codename, and no mention of my name anywhere.<BR/><BR/>*cough*companyvalues*cough* What?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1134942659756318692005-12-18T13:50:00.000-08:002005-12-18T13:50:00.000-08:001. Cynthia Shapiro is going to receive much more r...1. Cynthia Shapiro is going to receive much more royalty this x-mas from all the books MSFT'ies are gonna buy.<BR/><BR/>2. HR is going to be so screwed after everyone has read Corp. Confi. This is going to be hilarious.<BR/><BR/>3. With no requests going to HR > they can't show any workload. So might as well let them all go. <BR/>Mini - thats about 20% of the organization..LOL!!! That's a start!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1134940998589266182005-12-18T13:23:00.000-08:002005-12-18T13:23:00.000-08:00One time, I presented an idea in an email to a few...<I>One time, I presented an idea in an email to a few people, later someone added me back on the thread and I saw that someone had taken out my name and presented the idea as their own to a 'higher up' group of people.</I><BR/><BR/>interesting. Its almost exactly what happened to me. I had some ideas for a new program. I approached my manager for his advice on the best way to action it. He said: 'send me a proposal' I sent the proposal. Later, when I buttonholed him on it, he said 'yeah, there was some good stuff in there. Keep bringing those good ideas...' Not long after, a fresh ivy league graduate (I'm not banging on the ivy league, I'm banging on entitlement w/o merit) launched my program. And it was my program, point for point, with ‘just enough’ variance tossed in. I received no credit. The ostensible owner of the program ran it into the ground. He simply didn’t have the insight to build it. I couldn’t have been more let down. I knew Microsoft did this to other companies, I had no idea we did it to each other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555958.post-1134936375425559332005-12-18T12:06:00.000-08:002005-12-18T12:06:00.000-08:00"1) A manager is trying to prevent you from having..."1) A manager is trying to prevent you from having an impact on the product (e.g. you're level 61, he's level 62).<BR/><BR/>2) They think it is a good idea and want to sit on it until they can claim it as their own idea."<BR/><BR/>-- yup this sucks ... happens all the time .<BR/><BR/>usually if your being impacted by #1, then #2 will happen regularly. Be concious and network outside and around your manager (or evils on your team .. right alexandru) to be seen for such things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com