Thursday, April 28, 2005

A Voice of Reason / Plausibility

Now then, this is one hell of a great, thought out comment: Voice of Reason . It's well worth a read.

Also, it seems I just plain can't type clearly:

Your entire posting seems to assume that it would be extreme and implausible for a Microsoft employee to quit over this. That would only be true for straight people. This is a big deal for queer people.

No, I think it extremely plausible for folks to quit over this. Thanks for making that clearer than I could manage. If they do leave / quit Microsoft, I do hope they publicly explain what changes they'd expect to see in the Microsoft workplace environment to consider coming back.

Well, if we haven't hired everyone from India and China by then.

4 comments:

Marcus said...

"Well, if we haven't hired everyone from India and China by then."

That is hardly what that article said. It was speaking of the lessening capabilities of American work force coupled with the fact that we are allowing less foreigners to enter our borders. This situation is lowering American capabilities in research and development, and industry that is shifting towards being geographically located in India and China.

Anonymous said...

It was speaking of the lessening capabilities of American work force coupled with the fact that we are allowing less foreigners to enter our borders. This situation is lowering American capabilities in research and development, and industry that is shifting towards being geographically located in India and China.

Exactly. We've sent many of the entry-level computer jobs (technical support, "grunt" coding, remote systems administration) overseas to much cheaper markets. As such, where do the newly minted computer grads go for their experience? It's hard to get "5 years experience in C#" when no one is willing to hire you if you have "0 years." Yes, they may have studied this in college, but college is no substitute for the "real world," and that's why we have fewer computing grads and fewer really good people to hire.

Anonymous said...

I love the spin that Bill gives on this issue. The problem is that we can't find skilled talent because VERY FEW SKILLED PEOPLE WANT TO COME WORK HERE. It should be no surprise to anyone internally that HR is having a near-impossible time recruiting good candidates. There's nothing exciting coming out of MS lately, and the stock isn't moving anywhere. With a reputation for hardball business practices and shoddy software, recent grads are exactly falling over themselves to interview with us. Trying to fill an open headcount takes 8-10 months at a minimum now. The last few candidates I've seen on an interview loop could barely define "computer" let alone program one. THAT is why Bill wants more H1-B visas...we can't convince US grads to come work here, so we need to go overseas to find candidates that are more desperate and less likely to leave once they are over here.

dennis said...

good talent wont stay due to complex and incestual politics.

cheap talen is hard to find simply because the talent for the $$ driver they are targetting doesn't exist.

Its like buying a cheap car (e.g. yugo) and expecting it hold value based upon initial investment. Ain't happening.